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Dec 14, 2021Liked by J.P. Andrew

>>>For if no one is ultimately responsible for what they do, then (contra the retributivists) there is nothing intrinsically valuable in anyone’s suffering.<<<

I would say that *even if* libertarian Free Will is true, and agents really can be ultimately morally responsible for their evil acts, that *even then* there would be nothing intrinsically valuable in their suffering. Even in that case, I think the only value to suffering is its ability to change behavior and deter evil actions.

BTW, I think the arguments against the coherency of LFW are conclusive... but I believe in it anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️--albeit in a very limited capacity. I guess I'd have to consider myself a mysterian about LFW.

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